Review of Brickwork India Virtual Assistants: Room for Improvement, but Leading the Pack

J.R. March 12, 2008 13

brickwork_india_logo.gifLike a lot of people who have read The 4-Hour Workweek (review), right when I finished it I told myself “I have got to get a virtual assistant.” I imagined all kinds of time consuming tasks that I could get off my plate. But offloading tasks to VA’s comes with its own set of challenges (I’ve covered some of them in my “VA’s – Hit and Miss” post). Now it’s time to get specific – so this post is all about my experience with Brickwork India from October, 2007 to now:

I signed up for Brickwork’s ‘Basic Services’ package, which according to their services page covers services like: “Assistance in MS Office and Other tasks, Internet Search, Bookkeeping and Accounting, Assistance in MS Outlook tasks, Sales And Marketing Support, Remote Desktop Management, Travel Assistance, Assistance in HR / Personnal tasks.” Note that this doesn’t mean that your VA will have all of the skills listed; nor is it an exhaustive list of the tasks that can be performed by your ‘Basic Services’ VA. It just means that if you want to hire a VA for any of those types of tasks, it falls under their ‘Basic Services’ package.

Cost: $15/hr (price break for 40 hours/week: $12.50/hr)

The Sign-up Process: Due to the popularity of VA services these days, when I initially contacted Brickwork via their website, I got a “Thanks, but we’re slammed. We’ll get back to you in a week or two…” type note (that’s not the exact wording, but you get the idea). I half expected not to hear back, but about a week and a half later I got a response. They contacted me with requests for information about the type of work I needed done, some forms they needed me to fill out, and a bunch of other red tape. It was a bit of a slow and clunky process.

Payments / Billing: Overall the billing and payment process is fairly painless. One drawback is that Brickwork doesn’t take credit cards. They suggest wire transfer as their preferred method of payment, but I don’t like wire transfers for several reasons: (1) they’re not protected against fraud like credit card transactions are; (2) I have to go to my local bank branch to initiate and authorize the transfer – every time, and (3) my bank (Wells Fargo) charges me about $30-40 per wire transfer. So, I asked Brickwork if they could accept PayPal – and I was told they could. The weird thing is that they had to re-issue the invoice (to include a PayPal fee (PayPal charges a percentage fee, which Brickwork adds on to their total bill, so I pay the fee)), and that invoice re-issue took a couple days. That PayPal fee is about the same as the wire transfer fee, but I don’t have to go into a bank to initiate payment – and I can use my credit card. I’d like to have the payment automatically deducted from my credit card, but this works I guess.

Task Tracking: The monthly invoices they send me just consist of a total amount due for the month. This is because I’ve signed up for a flat number of hours to be billed per month…so I can certainly understand why they do it that way. But it would be really nice to be able to – just like any other service bill – see an itemized breakdown of what work was performed during the billing period. With my current VA this isn’t a big deal, but if I had an under-performing VA, I’d definitely like to cross-check how many hours were being spent on each task. Update (6/30/2008): I created a time tracking spreadsheet in eXpresso (update: I have since switched to Google Docs (see a sample time tracking worksheet)) and my VA now updates this sheet daily with tasks worked. The spreadsheet is online, so we don’t have to e-mail it back and forth. Depending on your needs, you could also use a light project management tool like Basecamp (or Zoho Projects).

Use it or Lose it: A “have your cake and eat it too” request for Brickwork would be for them to offer a package that allows customers to pay only for the hours they use. As it is you have to commit to a number of hours of work per month, just like a regular employee. If you buy the 40 hour/month package, and you only provide enough work to keep your VA busy for 20 hours – well, you still pay for the full 40. Use it or lose it.

Aside from these wish list items the payment communications are reliable and they’re reasonably responsive to related queries.

VA Talent: I have been fortunate with my Brickwork VA. Brickwork is the only Virtual Assistant firm where the first VA I was assigned is the one I still work with today (with other firms I’ve worked with I’ve had to ask for replacements). Update (6/30/08): My first Brickwork Virtual Assistant was eager to learn, and took pride in her work. However, she left the company, and I was assigned a new VA. Fortunately the transition process was pretty smooth – and I think that’s where Brickwork earns it’s keep – but my new VA, unfortunately doesn’t quite fill the shoes of his predecessor. He does good work in some instances, but frequently needs reminders and all of his work has to be checked. Update (9/1/2008): My second Brickwork VA just couldn’t hack it. His task results were constantly sub-par, he needed frequent reminders, he was slow to complete his work, he was an “under-communicator”, and I didn’t feel comfortable assigning tasks to him that required any subjective interpretation. I finally asked for a replacement. Brickwork has said they will honor my request. Update (11/14/2008): Brickwork honored my request for a replacement, and made the transition pretty quickly. After a couple months working with my third Brickwork Virtual Assistant, my faith in the business is somewhat restored. This latest assistant is, like my firsts, eager to learn, a fast worker, responsive, and overall a pretty good communicator. The most important thing is that we are able to assign her tasks with clear instructions, and she follows those instructions.

Some of the tasks I have had my Brickwork VA work on have been a little more technical in nature, compared to the ‘Basic Services’ tasks listed above. Often I have them reseearch specific business topics, and publish summaries of their research using a Joomla or WordPress Content Management System (CMS). Other tasks involve creating or formatting spreadsheets, creating reports based on spreadsheet data, and very basic website content editing. By contrast, another virtual assistant firm, Get Friday just told me straight up that their virtual assistant could not perform these types of tasks. Update (6/30/2008): I no longer have my Brickwork VA do research tasks – he can only perform the most basic website content updating tasks. Update (11/4/2008): Well, it depends on who you are assigned as an assistant. My third assistant is more competent than my second, and I’m now assigning her most of the same types of tasks as I described above.

Although my [first] Brickwork VA didn’t initially have experience with Joomla or WordPress, she seemed to be genuinely interested in learning. Just like when you hire an inexperienced employee, you have to be patient and hands-on in the beginning, and hope they pick it up and run with it. Luckily that’s what happened for me. Once she was comfortable with the types of projects and tasks I assigned to her, she became largely independent. When she needed help with something she would aske me directly first – and if I couldn’t answer the question she was good about checking with her other Brickwork team members for resolutions. Update (6/30/2008): My current Brickwork VA is still pretty independent, but the tasks have to be very well defined, and I’m a bit more constrained as to the types of work I can give him. Basic, repetitive tasks are best. Tasks that require creative solutions sometimes generate disappointing, sometimes surprising, results. Update (11/4/2008): Again, my third virtual assistant has been performing higher quality work than the second one, who she replaced.

Communications: At first I communicated with my [first] Brickwork VA pretty regularly via e-mail, instant messenger, and the occasional Skype phone call. There’s definitely a language barrier, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised with the quality of communications, both oral and written. As she became more experienced with my tasks, daily communication was no longer necessary. For a while I just e-mailed her tasks on the fly, and she would reply to each e-mail when it was completed. But I implemented a different method of managing the tasks, which has really reduced the time I spend managing the relationship. Update (6/30/2008): My [second] virtual assistant also communicates ok via Skype and e-mail, but his business acumen isn’t quite as developed. Basic follow-up is a weak point…but he’s getting better. Update (6/30/2008): The third assistant has better communication skills than the second. She is proactive and asks questions, whereas the second VA would perform a task first; ask questions later.

Work Schedule: Because my Brickwork VAs’ works from about 7:00am to 3:00pm (Bangalore time), they’re starting her day around the same time I’m finishing mine (I’m in California (US Pacific Time Zone)). This does mean that they finish their work while I’m sleeping – but it also means that we are unavailable to clarify task instructions during their work day. So, the time we use to discuss task instructions is usually my late evening (8:00 pm to 12:00 midnight) – which is sometimes a bit of a pain. But as I said above, the days of daily live communications between my Brickwork VA and I are done, and I don’t commit much of my evening time to task clarifications anymore. Note: some other firms’ VA’s (like Get Friday) will work during your business hours.

Overall Rating: 4.5 out of 5
(Update 6/30/2008): 4 out of 5

  • Pro’s:
    • Flexibility, in terms of the types of tasks willing and able to perform
    • Ability of VA to adopt my own method of project and task management (like Basecamp)
    • Generally quick and accurate communications
    • Relatively smooth transitions in case of one virtual assistant leaving the firm, or another being replaced by request
  • Con’s:
    • Payment methods available are not ideal (I’d prefer regular credit card billing)
    • “Use it or lose it” time. You pay for the hours committed whether you keep your VA busy or not.
    • I wish that they had a better way of tracking time spent on tasks. Monthly invoice gives no such detail. Update (6/30/2008): For the past two months I’ve been receiving a monthly task breakdown summary, which does help me account for time spent.
    • Cost is not that competitive. At $15, or even $12.50/hr the cost is probably not all that much less than what you might be able to pay a US college student to do the same kind of work.
    • The evening hours work schedule can take getting used to

Also see our other Reviews of Virtual Assistant Firms.

13 Comments »

  1. Aaron Kemmer March 17, 2009 at 11:05 am - Reply

    J: Thank you for the VA reviews. They helped tremendously!

  2. Fabio July 12, 2009 at 10:07 pm - Reply

    I need information about Virtual Assistent, is possible in italian language?

    Thanks you

    fabio

  3. HarryR September 22, 2009 at 9:47 pm - Reply

    Thanks for these reviews.

    I wish I'd read them before trying Bpovia for a month.

    $100 paid up front for 10 hours over a month.

    Poor communication;little produced in 5 hours of billed time and what was wasn't useful.

    When I pointed this out there was no reply.

    Then the month expired and they've kept the unused $50 without offering me another VA to try again.

    That's good money in China.

    Money for old rope.

    Keep away from these people.

  4. Pajero Tim November 2, 2009 at 7:56 pm - Reply

    Very useful article as I'm in the process of engaging Brickwork for my first VA.

    A 2009 update would be great.

  5. Ann Elisabeth January 11, 2010 at 12:09 pm - Reply

    I have had a very negative experience over the last 6 weeks with Brickwork. In fact, it is obvious that they did not understand the tasks, nor did they attempt to provide me with the final documents I sought. Instead, I have no idea how they used the time I paid for. Not only that, but when questions, they failed to respond to my question about how the time was used.

    In general, I have been very frustrated with the Brickwork service–I have had a serious problem communicating with the staff about projects and expectations. No one I've spoken with or communicated with at Brickwork has understood what I am trying to do, but they have also NOT made an effort to learn more, ask questions, clarify anything. From the beginning, I tried to make my project/the task clear yet it seems as though Brickwork did not understand what I was asking for.

    When I received results from someone at Brickwork over the last 6 weeks, the work has been bad and the time used enormous. What they said would take their staff about 16 hours took me only 3. And this last project should have been far less time consuming than the results have shown. In fact, rather than be a user-friendly service to help facilitate my project, Brickwork made it about 10 times MORE difficult for me because I've had to spend time reviewing their work, which has had many errors, version control issues and a clear lack of concern of the result.

    I have come to the conclusion that I should have done it myself the first time and saved the money or hired someone locally. It's too bad. I had high hopes for using this service, but instead, have been sorely disappointed at every turn.

  6. Prithvi June 28, 2010 at 11:45 pm - Reply

    After reading so many experiences with Brickwork I still want to post my own. Please note that I'm an Indian and I called Brickwork after reading the 4hww to start a muse. Just because I'm Indian doesn't mean we didn't speak in English, the people I spoke to had very good English fluency and we never used in vernacular languages to communicate. That being said I can't help but say that my experience with Brickwork is in no way better than the many who already posted their experiences. If they've made it blatantly obvious that their book was featured in the 4hww by plastering the 4hww's image on their home page, the least they can do is familiarize themselves with the possible tasks that people who have read that book would contact them about. I contacted them for a muse and possible research on that and some ideas but everything they carry out needs a "estimate". I wanted something simple but they make everything very complex. I bought 20 hrs from them @ $15/hr and frankly I don't think any of the time is worth it. I assigned a task of finding out information on different business models in India and US and give me a brief on it. It may be that I wasn't specific enough but he later reported that 8 hrs have been used in my account and gave me some docs on business models. I wanted him to do research on the net and give me the websites that I could refer to, but instead he gave me a lengthy doc detailing many things which weren't in any way relevant to me. Also, I don't know what took him 8 hrs to perform that task which would probably have taken me 2 hrs to perform.

    I assigned them a second task of searching for content writers and this time I gave them a limit of 2hrs and I specified the rate and other details, they gave me a doc with 10-15 writers a few of them just elance profiles. Frankly this would have taken me 15 mins or less to find out. The reason I gave them this task is because I've totally lost faith in their ability to perform most of the tasks I give them.

    I still have 10 hrs in my account with them but I don't know what to use it for.

    I asked them to create a pricing model for a company of a friend. They sell adhesive gum and just wanted a simple pricing model. When I contacted BW about this they asked for a write up of the company, a write up of the product and some other vague details. I don't know how this is relevant, we gave them our profit margin and production cost and the price that the product should retail for.

    I've had tons of communication which was mostly over the phone, but it's of no use. They just don't seem to understand any of the new business models.

    My experience with Brickwork has been terrible, their communication is good, but their basic grasp of business seems to be different. The first person I spoke to Pradeep, said I was his first Indian client in his 4 yrs of experience. They seem to like complicating simple tasks, rather than simplify them. Every person I spoke to in Brickwork, this includes Pradeep J,Kalyani P, Sanjeeth were puzzled when I spoke about a muse or information product. I assumed that since they were so familiar with foreign markets, they'd know what I'm talking about but contrary to popular belief laid down by Tim Ferriss, they are nowhere as good as claimed.

    I'll be happy to answer questions about Brickwork to the best of my knowledge, if I can save anyone the hassle and money I'd love to. I just wish I had found this before paying them.

    Just reply here and I'll get back to you.

    Note: I posted this same review on another blog.

    • Sean H July 19, 2010 at 11:03 pm - Reply

      Pritvi:

      I appreciate your discussion of Brickwork. I am looking for a VA and I don't have much time. I need assistance with a company newsletter: preparing content, mailing list, mailing of the newsletters, etc. Any recommendations for a smaller VA that can get this done quickly and without the same problems you encountered? Thanks, Sean

  7. CP July 1, 2010 at 10:48 am - Reply

    I was eager to outsource some very basic website design cleaning-up work to Brickwork after reading 4hww. I emailed them, they promptly got back to me asking for details of the work so they could provide an estimate. I emailed them details, and promptly got a reply email from someone saying he (she?) is on vacation for a week and will "revert" back to me when he returns home.

    This is hilarious to me — Tim Ferris expounds at length in his book about how it's best to hire a firm like Brickwork rather than one individual for outsourcing tasks, so you don't get caught by their schedule and timeline. I can't even get a timely price quote from this firm b/c the one person who has apparently been assigned to the task has gone on vacation for a week. ?

    This little project was going to be my test case, trying them out for much more work I need to get done. But so far I can't see any advantage to going with an agency like Brickwork rather than one good freelancer in the US or elsewhere.

  8. Harry February 28, 2011 at 1:30 pm - Reply

    The problem with the firm is bad top management. The founders wife runs the show and employee harassment has led to severe attrition. The company is definitely not going to survive like this very long. Better put your money elsewhere.

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